The HubHeroes Podcast

George B. Thomas: All right, and now we can get into the good stuff and have a little conversation. Uh, but before we do, Max and Chad, how the heck are you guys doing this fabulous Monday?
Chad Hohn: So good, brother
Max Cohen: Very good. I'm very good. My sleep, my sleep schedule's cooked 'cause the kids aren't going to school in the morning. Uh, other than that, I'm, uh, I'm doing great.
George B. Thomas: Nice.
Max Cohen: about you, George? How are you?
George B. Thomas: I, I'm hanging in there. Um, I have, I've have been-- Moving is, is fun, right? There's just so much. There's so much. And, and I don't mean fun in like the really it's fun. I mean fun as in you don't wanna complain, so you call it fun and people go, "I know what you're saying. I know
Chad Hohn: And people go, "Hey, so when you invite me to help you unload and you provide pizza, that's totally gonna be worth it, right?"
Max Cohen: Mm-hmm.
George B. Thomas: Yeah, yeah. Without a doubt. Pizza, maybe some pop, uh, soda if you call it that, you know.
Chad Hohn: Depending on
George B. Thomas: the occasional brewski f- depending on the friends that you have, you know.
Chad Hohn: Little one two-ski
George B. Thomas: y- yeah, yeah,
Max Cohen: with the brewski. Yeah
George B. Thomas: There you go. There you go. Uh, but we're, we're almost, we're almost done. Um, but it's, it's a lot, right? And so you gotta pay attention to all these things, and you're not really sure what the most important thing to pay attention to.
And you know what? What's funny, through this move, I started to think about, like, that's kind of HubSpot in a way. There's a lot, and you don't really know what to pay attention to as a typical user or what to do. And so HubSpot, I think, is trying to help with that. But I have a question for Max.
Max Cohen: Mm-hmm.
George B. Thomas: Max, how many years have you been hoping, praying, wishing that you could just customize the left-hand navigation of HubSpot?
11? 11 years? Like immediately, he's like, "11. It's been
Chad Hohn: specifically since the dawn of the f- uh, the dawn of the first time I ever looked at it
George B. Thomas: do you remember the day that you became ultra p- 'cause I remember conversations way back in the day with you. Do you remember the day when you became, like, just ultra passionate about HubSpot navigation? And like, and like, and also, like, why?
Like, why is that, like, a bane of your existence?
Max Cohen: I mean, well, one, I just, I was so sick of hearing people complain about it and not being able to do it, one, right? That's the selfish reason, reason. I think the other one is, you know, um, there's so much stuff in it that I feel like even I have a hard time navigating it these days,
George B. Thomas: Yeah. Yeah
Max Cohen: And I just so wish that I could only surface what was actually relevant to me, and I think a lot of other people share that same sentiment, right?
I think also too, if there was like, you know, forget just, you know, getting quick access to the stuff you use all the time. I think there's just like, there's just been this, this, this argument that people have had forever around, you know, their mental model of how they organize all these different tools and where they fall and like all these different things, and I just wish that could not be a problem and I could just put stuff where I think it makes sense, right?
Um, you know, and, and I think also on top of that, it's very, very, um, you know, it's very, I think, common as much of the all-in-one, you know, tool HubSpot is, which I think today we're kind of like moving away from that, which is I think funny. Um, the... No, no, I just think the whole, the whole cobbled and, and crafted narrative is kind of like blown up with all this AI bullshit.
Anyway, um,
George B. Thomas: yeah.
Max Cohen: um, so the, um, what was I gonna say here? I, I hope one day that the nav is not only gonna help you access your tools inside of HubSpot, but give you quick access to the other stuff that you need to do your job. It's not just HubSpot that you might find yourself like going to when you're inside
Chad Hohn: Yeah, like external, external URL page technology.
Max Cohen: right? Yeah, some, some other, you know, back-end system your team has or whatever it may be. But
George B. Thomas: I mean,
Max Cohen: I'm excited.
George B. Thomas: did you, did you know, this has nothing to do with today's episode, but did you know that if you have Google, uh, Drive connected to Bree's assistant, that it can go grab documents for you without you needing to go grab documents?
Chad Hohn: Yeah, the
Max Cohen: What? That was a random turn. What?
George B. Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, anyway, uh, 'cause I was thinking like that's kind of a link, it,
Max Cohen: Oh, sure.
George B. Thomas: in the moment, right? It's navigation in the moment. It's, it's like, "Hey, Breeze, can you go grab this document because I need a link to it and I wanna bring it up." I don't wanna have to go Google it in my Google Docs search bar,
Chad Hohn: Google Drive search is like the worst search known to man. It's truly abysmal.
George B. Thomas: Yeah, it is.
Chad Hohn: did you know there's also Google Drive inside of record pages now where you can link a folder to a deal or a company or whatever?
George B. Thomas: that might be another episode.
Chad Hohn: one. Just for those people who like the Googles
George B. Thomas: Yeah, yeah. Which there are a good amount. But, so, so Chad, obviously we're, we're talking about menu, uh, HubSpot main menu. Um, tell me about, like, is it a big deal to you? Has there been a love-hate relationship? Like what, what, what journey have you been on with the navigation?
'Cause Max has been very vocal about it.
Chad Hohn: right.
George B. Thomas: You not so much
Chad Hohn: with main nav, I've been, like, a part of some of the betas over the years, like they're looking for feedback to improve it. Then you get the first rollout where they don't have whatever that, like, UI/UX triangle technology figured out, where, like, you start hovering over it and you can't keep a stupid sidebar open to save your life
George B. Thomas: Whoopsie.
Chad Hohn: Um, but they fixed that before they roll it out to everybody usually. Anyway, all that to say, like... I mean, I... Every time the main nav changes, even like the record UI, like they've start... They're, they're doing like a, a CRM record UI update where the left-hand sidebar is going away, which is crazy, uh, to me.
But, like, also, why do you need the left-hand sidebar when everything can exist in the middle and right? Like, you know. Anyway, I mean, depending on how you look at it, but I get a little bit of who wears my cheese or
George B. Thomas: Oh, yeah. Who Moved My Cheese? Yeah. Yeah. Not...
Chad Hohn: moving my junk around.
But that's me as an admin, where I actually access the 80-plus items in this stupid nav, like, all the time. You know, I'm always going all over to edit things and manipulate things. Now, for my team, they're, like, always lost. They're always lo- especially when they are working on a tiny laptop screen that's, like, four pixels by eight pixels, right?
And when they're, like, you know, working in, um, you know, whatever job role they have. They need, like, four pages, and bookmarks are great, but nobody remembers to just simply go to bookmarks all the time.
George B. Thomas: Yeah.
Chad Hohn: imagine this is the foundation of, hey, you're in sales, you have sales workspace, and, like, maybe a dashboard or, like, two things.
You know, contacts, sales workspace, projects or tasks or something, and that's it. You don't need to see anything else. That's all you need.
George B. Thomas: Yeah.
Chad Hohn: this is, like, also the beginning of maybe even re-skinning the UI to match your company brand kit. Take that little Mr. HubSpot logo out of there, huh? You know what I'm saying?
And put a little bit of whatever your company logo is. Like, I think we got little things we're heading there. Yeah, probably. People love that for, for Team Blue. They like to be able to skin it to their company, their company architecture, right?
George B. Thomas: Yeah. Would, would be interesting, would be interesting. So, so let me, let me share my screen, um, because... And, and, and don't ask me why in my portal this says it's under development, and I'll, I'll show you why I'm saying don't ask me why it says that, 'cause it's not. Um, it's way, it's way past that. But, but basically if, if you don't know, uh, personalized navigation, major update.
Uh, it is, I believe, still maybe a beta that you have to enroll in or may... It might just be rolling out to everything, and I'll explain why. I'll show you why, um, 'cause I didn't do anything special to where I'm about to go. Uh, but basically users, HubSpot users now get a, a shortened navigation tailored to their own use cases and customize it by adding their own groupings, reordering, and adding/removing items.
Why does it matter? Guys, look at the, the current navigation with 80-plus items. Max, do you remember when HubSpot was a keyword tool and like a crappy blog tool and that was HubSpot? Like, um, 80-plus items is overwhelming. Can somebody-- Can I get an amen from the chat in
Chad Hohn: Amen,
George B. Thomas: YouTube? My God. For users, and isn't tailored to their individual use cases, making it hard to find and focus.
Look, I've been using HubSpot since 2012. There, there are days where I'm like, "Why? Wh- why?" Uh, so how does it work? Well, we'll show you how it works. Anyway, we did write an article on this, by the way. You can go ahead and listen to my, uh, m- you know, mellow voice here walk you through. I even went in and kind of ga- gave a George's Take on this whole thing.
But let's dive into really what matters, and that's a little bit of the, the demo of this. Now, I'm in a demo portal, guys. Um, I didn't sign up for the beta in this demo portal. This is why I'm asking if maybe it's just out there for
Chad Hohn: I
didn't either. Yeah, I see it as well
Max Cohen: portals, new
George B. Thomas: new portals. Okay. So you must have to like enroll in it for older portals, 'cause it's not in the Sidekick Strategies portal, by the way.
But notice this pencil, it just, it, it, it miraculously showed up in s- Manage Navigation. And so what it is, you can see like, "Welcome to your personalized navigation. Your most used tools are now one click away." Okay, beautiful. And we see like a very slimmed down menu here. Um, let's go ahead and close this little guy out because we don't need that.
Hit Next here. Uh, find your other tools in More. Pin or unpin them anytime. So kind of like what I'll have to call historical bookmark functionality, even though now there's notice no bookmarks up by Home where there used to be. Uh, and then two, switch back anytime. For now, you can switch back to your pre- Previous navigation in your navigation settings, uh, three of three right here.
Okay, so we're gonna finish, and what we're gonna do is we're gonna hit More, and you can see now here are all your contacts, companies, deals, tickets, products, orders. Um, you can see marketing, right? So now you can basically start to say, "Hey, you know what? I, I do a lot with, uh, invoices. I want invoices to show up on the main side."
And then notice this, I do a lot with invoices, and I wanna actually drag invoices to, to the top. So I-- Now I can even say like, "Actually, you know what? Forget that. It's contacts, it's companies, then it's invoices. Ah, well, no, invoices should be after deals." A- and so you can go through here, and you can pick any of the things that you want to have
Chad Hohn: those bad boys, yep
George B. Thomas: what's nice is you can literally, uh, I think it's here. Let me go, let me go to Contacts. Uh, no. Where is it? There's a way that you can actually... Mm, mm, mm, mm. Let me go back.
Chad Hohn: What are you looking for?
George B. Thomas: it here? There's a way that you can start to group these as well. Like I saw-- Oh, unpin from navigation
Chad Hohn: I couldn't figure out how to group them either, but it did say something about grouping
Max Cohen: think
George B. Thomas: That-- No, no, you-- I saw it earlier this morning. I literally saw it earlier this morning, and I, I'm trying to figure out because I clicked on something and then it was like it allowed me to do a thing where I...
Chad Hohn: at the bottom, then you can edit what you already
George B. Thomas: ah, here we--
Chad Hohn: couldn't create... You can't create groups here yet either
George B. Thomas: yeah, that's what I was looking for.
Okay. So pin to tools, and then I can switch to navigation. See, I thought this was grouping. Okay. So we can't create grouping yet. That must be coming because I could've swore we just read in the update, uh, that.
Max Cohen: literally said, it said it in the tutorial.
George B. Thomas: Y- y- yeah.
Max Cohen: It said, it said grouping in the tutorial.
George B. Thomas: Yeah, in the tutorial. So interesting. Unless we're missing something.
Like, I can unpin it. Can I... I can't, like, I can only hover over. All right. So, so interesting. So right now as it sits, we have all the tools under More. We can grab the tools that we want, and we can add them to, uh, sections. I keep clicking on it like I wanna go to a thing. You have to hit the little pin to navigation.
But then after that, it looks like that's what we got at this point. So my, my question to you, Max and Chad, is like, is the juice worth the squeeze yet? What are the use cases you immediately think of, like the types of user where we would say yes, maybe not no? Um, and how important do you think groupings are to this whole thing that we're trying to do with customized navigation?
Max Cohen: I mean, grouping's really important. I think also, like, blocking stuff. Like, don't let-- Like, take certain things out of there maybe, right? Like, I think that's, that's what some people wanna do. There's also no admin control. This is user by user at the moment, right? So yeah,
Chad Hohn: each user has to do it on their own. If you look at the product announcement at the bottom, they say, "Coming soon, you're gonna be able to set it for your team." Coming later, that
George B. Thomas: Okay. Okay.
Max Cohen: They're waiting to do this
Chad Hohn: at the moment, it's, it's just this beautiful little f- look into the future that's like fun for people to play with, and it's not useful until you can actually deploy it, in my opinion.
I'm not getting my team to set it up manually, you
George B. Thomas: Yeah, because I almost go like, and my, my brain yells like, "This would be dope if in presets
Chad Hohn: Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah,
George B. Thomas: set a customized menu in presets for a certain user type or something like
Chad Hohn: or based on team. Could be a team or a preset, right? Either or
Max Cohen: Um, only other thing you can't right now, you can't do custom objects, um, which is... Yeah, I talked to the, I talked to the
George B. Thomas: S- seriously?
Max Cohen: You can't
George B. Thomas: Oh, because yeah, there's no real...
Max Cohen: Well, I mean, you, you don't, you don't have any custom objects in your portal, but it,
George B. Thomas: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Chad Hohn: It would be under CRM somewhere
Max Cohen: objects
George B. Thomas: you would think that it would show up...
Chad Hohn: Well, the reason is because each portal has their own unique two dash whatever custom object type ID, so they have to build in some sort of logic to, like, query whatever the custom objects are
Max Cohen: you gotta figure
Chad Hohn: Everything else is standard
Max Cohen: icons and, like, all this other stuff too.
Chad Hohn: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, how do you handle icons for custom objects?
It's gonna be a whole bunch of the same icon
Max Cohen: Maybe
George B. Thomas: and I think that that's like super important because if you've got a custom object, it's because it's important to the way that you do business. Of course it needs to be in the menu
So, so if we give it a, if we start to build a wishlist item, it's grouping, um, it's blocking, it's admin, uh, features that work with like teams or presets.
It's customizable icons. Okay, so now listen guys. How much time does this add when all of a sudden we start to think about this to an admin's life of like needing to do now more so that people can do more easier? Does that make sense what I'm asking
Max Cohen: it's just, it's set up at the beginning just like anything
Chad Hohn: Yeah, yeah. Just like everything else. It's just one more thing on your checklist, unfortunately, but at the same time, it's not that
Max Cohen: but it, like, it's one of those things that'll pay dividends down the road 'cause you're like lit- l- because,
George B. Thomas: me about that 'cause that's where my brain's
Max Cohen: that could be huge. Like imagine like how much time you're saving for all your individual users not having to like figure out the navigation, right?
Like, and just having everything and nothing else that they don't need right on the left. Like that's actually huge, right? Like I-- Dude, the amount of times that even I today spend
Chad Hohn: Just fiddling
Max Cohen: and hovering over things, being like, "Wait, where is this thing that I've known for like 10 years now? Where it is? Oh, it's right there."
You know what I mean? Like it, it's, it's, it's, it's gonna be huge. So yeah, it's really important
Chad Hohn: Well, one thing too that I think is, like, really relevant there, you know, is, um, I, I wonder if even to the next level, 'cause, like, right now you can do admin promoted views, but, like, I don't know if you can do team-based views in HubSpot. So, like, let's say I as an admin wanna promote views only for a specific team.
Is that a thing or am I, am I not r-r-r- uh, I, or do I not
Max Cohen: I think they're working on it actually, team-based views for the
Chad Hohn: I bet they
Max Cohen: 'Cause that's where it makes the,
Chad Hohn: you need to have the nav like this and then the views like this based on, like, a preset for a team,
Max Cohen: Yep, and
Chad Hohn: and then, okay, here's your default views. Yeah, here's... Right, and permissions of course, right. But anyway, that's what I'm thinking is, like, if we get to that level, then you really wipe the slate clean.
You only put in the sales workspace or the CS workspace, the, uh, they're adding a calendar tab. Did y'all know that? Oh, if you wanna see your calendar instead of having to go to sales workspace and then schedule just 'cause, like, you know. Anyway. So like, yeah, you put just a few things that they need, and then the views, you tailor the views in maybe the workspace, but also in default deals and, and contacts and companies per team, you know, and they, they just see what they need to see.
It's great
Max Cohen: Yeah
George B. Thomas: can I tell you what's blowing my mind right now? Um, I can pin context right now, um, but I can't even find, uh, uh, which again, I-- maybe it's not in this portal, but I think it's in this portal 'cause it's a demo portal. Um, I can't find content staging. Like, I wish content staging wasn't like the, um, I don't know what I wanna call it 'cause I don't wanna call it anything negative.
Like, if you've got red hair, I don't wanna call it the red-headed stepchild 'cause I hate that saying. But, like, I wish content staging wasn't like, uh, content, websites, dropdown, content staging. 'Cause, like, if you were a de- if you were, like, a developer or you're working in CMS, I can totally see where you would literally do, uh...
And which, by the way, where the freak is files?
Chad Hohn: It's, uh... Oh, files is under CRM, I think
George B. Thomas: it's usually with content. Oh, interesting. In the old one. Anyway,
Max Cohen: is, hold on. This is,
George B. Thomas: imagine if all of a sudden you could have content staging over here, too. Website, landing page, blog, design manager, files, and then boom, content staging, and that might be all you would need, and then eventually you could go in-- Or, or HubDB.
Is HubDB in here,
Max Cohen: go to
George B. Thomas: by the way?
Max Cohen: development,
Chad Hohn: it's under development
George B. Thomas: Development. What, uh, what, what, where are you asking me to go? Oh, development. No, development. But I, but I could... Oops, oops, oops. That's not really what I wanted to do. But I could, but I could do, boop, that. Like now all of a sudden I've got a, a, you know, I'm a CMS designer, developer, whatever person.
Chad Hohn: hey, content files, George. Content files
George B. Thomas: That, that's, that's what I did, but it's not here.
Chad Hohn: Oh,
George B. Thomas: Maybe it's 'cause I'm in a demo portal. Maybe 'cause I'm in a demo portal, but that's weird. Yeah, I know in the normal one it's literally content and, boop, files. But in this one it's more and content and... So th- maybe there's a couple little bugs too happening 'cause, again, I don't see, uh, where else, um, files would be up in this joint.
And again, maybe it's because of the demo portal and whatnot. But I think this even gets sexy where it's like, as a social media person, I only have these four or five things and then can get to the rest. Or as a website developer designer, I can set up just these things or get to the rest. Like, there might be some power in like, get to the rest more, like as, as it is.
You know what I mean?
Max Cohen: Yeah, there, so there was two
Chad Hohn: the fact that that's standardized is nice
Max Cohen: there was two things that I asked for, um, when I was talking to the PM of this. One, obviously, like external links, right? If, if they can open up as a iframe inside of the canvas here, it's even better. Two,
George B. Thomas: Mm-hmm.
Max Cohen: deep links inside of HubSpot,
George B. Thomas: Settings, bro.
Max Cohen: That's the big thing, right?
Is like, yeah, getting to certain place- Like, who knows? You might have... I, I remember, uh, back in the day, uh, when I was like first starting at Happly, I was spending more time on the HubSpot company record than
George B. Thomas: Yeah.
Max Cohen: right? Like, maybe you wanna link a specific company record. Maybe you wanna link a specific webpage.
Maybe like, you know, sometimes you end up spending a ton of time in the same exact place that isn't necessarily where you land when you hit a top level navigation item, right? So, you know,
George B. Thomas: Let's use, let's use as an e- as an example. If I was rounding this off, right? Website, landing page, blog, I'd want, uh, where is it? My 301 redirects, right?
Chad Hohn: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
George B. Thomas: anyway, somewhere in here. Or I'd want to be able to get to menus. So, like, in here I'd want, like, navigation and 301s and, like, like, again, tho- but
Max Cohen: folder of workflows, something like that.
George B. Thomas: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or a view. Like, imagine
Max Cohen: a view.
George B. Thomas: a view.
Chad Hohn: Whoa!
Max Cohen: Or different views,
George B. Thomas: Book, book... Oh.
Max Cohen: or a group, a group of multiple views.
George B. Thomas: if there was a group and then you had, like, two or three views that you always knew you needed to get to that now lived in the left-hand navigation menu.
Max Cohen: Mm-hmm.
George B. Thomas: Now that's getting sexy.
Max Cohen: Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Hohn: Mm-hmm.
George B. Thomas: just saying.
Max Cohen: Hot. Hot.
George B. Thomas: what, what,
Max Cohen: But yeah, they do need to, they need to white label it. I wanna be able to do my own color nav. Like gray is not it, dude. The gray is just, it's... This, this killed h- it killed HubSpot, the,
George B. Thomas: so you wanna change logo,
Max Cohen: be able to change the logo to my company's logo, and I wanna be able to change the color of the nav.
George B. Thomas: What, what ramifications do you think it makes if you see your, your logo versus the HubSpot
Max Cohen: None. For
George B. Thomas: Then why do you want it?
Max Cohen: Wait, you said ramifications. I thought you meant that it's like a bad thing
Chad Hohn: No, it's what i- implications
Max Cohen: the benefits of it?
George B. Thomas: Yeah. Well, or what are the positives or negatives? I'll, I'll, I'll just, I'll Georgify it. What are the positives or negatives of it not being a HubSpot logo and it all of a sudden being like a Sidekick Strategies logo or a Happily
Max Cohen: Looks nice is cool
George B. Thomas: Oh, so there's a cool factor to it?
Max Cohen: It's a ve- big cool factor to it. Yes, 100%. But also, like, the gray makes me not wanna go into HubSpot
George B. Thomas: Uh, really?
Max Cohen: With, with, with everything inside of my soul, George, yes
George B. Thomas: I'm, 'cause I'm pretty sure this gray right here, call back to the beginning of the show,
Chad Hohn: Yeah. It's, it's
George B. Thomas: is, is pretty close to iron, pretty close to iron ore, brother. I'm just
Chad Hohn: George is gonna
Max Cohen: a dep-, this is a depression gray is what this
George B. Thomas: the color... Oh,
Max Cohen: an I'm depressed gray. Yes
George B. Thomas: it's, I'm just saying, like, listen, the color of my walls might be very close to the color of the HubSpot new theme, and I didn't really
plan
Max Cohen: the gray is so bad I want the maroon back. That's how bad the
George B. Thomas: Oh, no.
God, no. No. I, I, I would, I would go
Max Cohen: like I'm watching a black and white TV when I'm m- using HubSpot these days. I feel like, I feel like I need a kn- like a knob
Chad Hohn: but then the CTA is, the CTAs call out stuff that's important, like those overdue tasks in the middle
Max Cohen: Hmm.
George B. Thomas: demo
portal, but
Chad Hohn: I know, but
George B. Thomas: Yeah.
Chad Hohn: they're, they
George B. Thomas: just say those are the... Man, I'm productive
Max Cohen: let me bring the blue back is all I'm saying. I just want the blue back. Yeah, the old blue. Remember the dark blue
Chad Hohn: re-skinning color-wise is gonna become a thing. Make your portal match your brand kit. I think that'll happen at some point
Max Cohen: Mm-hmm
George B. Thomas: Now see that would be kinda cool where you can pick a color out of your brand kit colors and it just kinda But, but in a very like, ooh, it looks like a professional designer designed it. Like it's, it's like a, you know, maybe it's like this color and then it's like an 80, 60, 40, 20 like color monochrome, monochromatic.
Phew, I got that word out.
Chad Hohn: Problem na ba 'gan?
George B. Thomas: So, um, Siskel and Ebert this bad boy. Right now, uh, the customizable menu, two thumbs up, two thumbs down, one thumbs up. What, what do you guys give it?
Max Cohen: Uh.
Chad Hohn: I mean, it's, like two thumbs up for the
Max Cohen: it. It's still cooking. Yeah.
Chad Hohn: it's still cooking
Max Cohen: still in the oven.
George B. Thomas: be my next question. So right
Max Cohen: still in the oven, but you know like when you eat, take like a chocolate chip cookie that's like half-baked and it's still good?
George B. Thomas: Hmm.
Max Cohen: But there's still enough room for it to go to not be overcooked, but still like really good.
Chad Hohn: We're still eating the cookie dough, you know, at this
Max Cohen: Oh, yeah, I know, that's what it is. We're just eating the cookie dough, and the cookie dough's great
George B. Thomas: so that's a, that's a question for you. Do you guys like eating the raw cookie dough or are you-- Are-- Yeah? Okay. Max, we actually align on this even though we don't align on scrambled eggs with milk
Max Cohen: I started putting milk on them.
George B. Thomas: Did you?
Max Cohen: Yeah, it's good
George B. Thomas: Mm.
Chad Hohn: started making them at night
George B. Thomas: I'm just gonna end this show right here because that's
Max Cohen: No, I'll take it all on it. I'll take it all on that big time
George B. Thomas: So what, what would you guys give to the HubSpot users, uh, right now in a best scenario, best way to use it now if they're gonna use it now? Or do you say hold off for another 30 days and see what happens?
Chad Hohn: I Well, how do they even know you can if you're not starting a brand new portal?
Yeah
George B. Thomas: I, I
Max Cohen: Stand back and stand by, as they say
Chad Hohn: Well, there was no beta button for me when I looked. I couldn't find a
George B. Thomas: Oh yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. There's not a button. Now, if you're an agency, you might be able to contact your PDM potentially, but yeah, I don't know.
Chad Hohn: Yeah, it's cool. I
Max Cohen: No rush
Chad Hohn: yeah, no, no rush on this, uh, as well. I think this is a very, very cool preview. Very exciting. Cookie Dough's delicious. We're all pumped. Uh, but until you can actually do something as an admin for your team, it's like, you know, it's not substantial at this point. I mean, it's like, you know, you're still cracking the egg.
You're maybe whipping that thing up, but it's not in the skillet yet, right?
George B. Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Well, you know what? I think, uh, I think we've talked about the customizable menu. I think people can make their own decision. I think while they're making their decision, uh, they should probably try to be happy, helpful, humble humans and, uh, and maybe do some happy hub spotting along the way.
Gentlemen, I will see you next Monday. You can flip a coin, heads or tails. I'm not sure which it's gonna be. Orange background, or as Max would call it, a soul-sucking, depressing gray, uh, background behind me. We'll, we'll see. Um,
Chad Hohn: 'cause I think resetting up your whole system is gonna be real fun.
George B. Thomas: Bro, like, I think my wife already is of the understanding that she's not gonna see me for, like, about four days as I try to
Max Cohen: be here next week, so maybe you should take it off and work on it.
George B. Thomas: Oh.
Chad Hohn: there you go.
George B. Thomas: Hey. Well,
Max Cohen: Yeah
Chad Hohn: everybody.
George B. Thomas: we'll talk about that afterwards. Uh, all right, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you go do some happy hub spotting, and we'll see you next week or maybe the week after, where I think we might be getting a special guest to talk potentially about
Chad Hohn: Little bit something.
George B. Thomas: We'll see. All right.
Chad Hohn: saw the video teaser.
George B. Thomas: Peace out.
Max Cohen: you. Drink water. Bye